As it has been pointed out here and there occasionally in my post comments, I don’t necessarily lean towards the positive all the time when talking about my games or my players. Let’s face it, some of us deal with happiness by just enjoying the happiness without making a big deal out of it. We deal with things we aren’t necessarily happy with by ranting about it. It’s sort of like guest reviews on a hotel’s website; you see so many negative ones because it’s mostly people unhappy with the experience who are compelled to review in the first place. I actually love my group, and I want to talk about it a bit from that perspective.
Currently there are seven of us regulars in the group, which is perfect really. Our games at maximum occupancy are one GM and six players. Perfect amount of players, because you can still have a fun and epic game with 5 or 4 players. Even with three players available we can do alternates or whatever. I keep the player count at a max of 6, but usually have sort of a waiting list of people who want in (a problem I have not heard that other locals groups have). I hear on an almost monthly basis from locals from various sources wanting in on the games. So many that I have considered trying to get a second, separate group together. But it’s hard enough to put together the time for one such group, so I think that is going to have to be my one and only group. Fine by me.
Four of us have been there pretty much since game one (or “game zero” as I like to call it), two and a half years ago. Me, Andy, Dan, and Terry (our token chick player). For around a year we had two or three players come and go, which is usually par for the course in any groups that weren’t all friends to begin with. Then Big Ben and Paul came along around the same time around a year or so ago, and we have had the same steady group now for close to a year and half. Little Ben, who played for a bit the other year but had work obligations, returned a few months ago. He has missed a few games since then, but more out of happenstance of his schedule more than anything else.
So, a solid group for many moons now. That seems to be a bit rare, at least in the Los Angeles area. Most groups I have seen or have experience with don’t seem to be able to keep it together the way they would like to. Not a knock at them, just part of my gratitude for a steady, steadfast group of great players. One experience I had was with a DM in West LA with a presence here in the old school blogs that resulted in my freshly created character being slain by an unfriendly and somewhat hostile player less than an hour into the session (I won’t include any links or names here. Regular readers can figure it out; I don’t wanna be starten’ nothing or cause any epic weirdo freak-outs), who turns out is the DM’s ONLY regular player over the years. Hmmm…wonder why. Regular player and co-founder of my group, Andy, had similar experiences with that GM and that player. As a matter of fact, Andy’s experience with these same people a few years prior to mine caused me to see Andy in a whole new light after my own shitty time with them, and to gain new appreciation for him and his play style. Andy seems just as happy to have a great and friendly group of regulars as I. With what is locally available out there, no wonder.
So yeah, I am happy with, and proud of, my group. For anybody in the past that has commented that perhaps some of my unhappy experiences outside my group is perhaps my own doing, I can only put forth my evidence against that theory: I have 3 people who have stayed over two years for my games, a pair who have stayed regulars for well over a year so far, and one who came back after a several month absence. My running of some OD&D at a local mini-con and then an Orange County Gaming Con last year were very well received, although I will admit that I think some of the friendships I made at those may have been affected by some of my harsh words in my blog about some of my other local experiences. Even Bob over at Cylopeatron, who I think looks at me with an eyebrow cocked lately after initially being fairly friendly, will admit that in his Gamma World session at the MiniCon event that I was the player MVP of the day (helping take the one-shot session to a solid conclusion when it was looking like it would end in a cliffhanger or forced conclusion at best).
So in regards to myself, my conscious is clear despite the occasional kerfuffle: I’m a very decent, fun and welcoming GM whose decades of experience shows, and as an occasional player I put a lot of my priority into the good time of the GM and the other players at the table besides my own. The proof has been in the pudding for anybody who has met me and played with me or under me.
Enough kissing of my own big ass. Let me kiss some butt and heap some praise on my worthy regulars a bit (in order of appearance in the group):
Andy: Sometimes drinker, sometimes toker, always smart-ass. Andy pretty much co-founded the group with me. He saw me on meetup.com looking to run some 1st edition (after a several year break), and after some of his less than satisfactory experiences with local groups he wanted to be in on something new. Andy usually hosts us, with his lovely wife Kara giving us the use of her fabric workshop in the back. It’s a nice cozy area, not too small and not too big, with a patio for the smoker/tokers. I was initially annoyed with Some of Andy’s play style choices, but in the long run I have come to really appreciate his excellent attitude towards role playing, and general welcoming nature to new folk who came along over the short years. Along with Dan, Andy is a very vocal player who loves to run his characters in an outgoing fashion, and any GM knows that is a valuable person to have at the table. Not everybody has to be real vocal, but a couple of people need to be. More than anybody outside of Terry, Andy is the most accepting of playing whatever genre I want to run. Can’t `put a price on that. I’m glad we have that. In the main AD&D campaign Andy runs Vaidno, a half-elf bard. In my occasional Champions games he ran a very cool Chop Socky Jackie Chan sytle Hong Kong cop, and in my Metamamorphosis Alpha/Mutant Future sessions he ran pretty much a mutated Billy Bob from Slingblade.
Dan: Big guy originally from South Africa (white) who has lived and travelled around the world. He has swum with sharks, trained in mountain rescue, and all kinds of crazy shit. He is some kind of computer related international business man, and has a nice pad up off Mulholland where we have played occasionally. He recently married his hot girlfriend. Dan has it all, and it’s one of the reasons I give him so much shit. A very outgoing player much like Andy, Dan also tends to be a little powergamey and argumentative with his characters, but funnily enough not in a negative way that you would usually find those traits in gamers. It’s fun to play the put-upon DM to his Munchkin play style. Dan loves the escapist nature of the games, and loves to kill things. I’m hoping he doesn’t one day decide to kill the DM. Dan’s main character in the 1st edtion games is the controversial Krysantha, a female drow raised by druids. She isn’t evil, but is for sure one hell of a bitch.
Terry: I have known Terry for over 20 years, and she has played on and off in my games for that long. I met her at the very first Renaissance Faire (formerly in Agoura Hills) I ever worked in the late 80’s. I actually posted about my appreciation of Terry as a friend and player a few months ago (inspired probably by her treating me to a weekend in Las Vegas), and you can check out that feel-good post here.
“Big” Ben: Call him Big Ben, because we have another Ben in the group who Big Ben has a few pounds on. Ben has a lot of 1st edition experience from the past, and actually knows the rules btb better than the rest of us, without being a rules lawyer. Ben has actually been very valuable in looking up things in the books when I don’t feel like it and am ready to just house rule something (Andy is handy that way too). Ben runs a high Elf mage, Lumarin, in my main campaign. Ben also runs the occasional 1st edition game for us so I can take a break and be a player. In his campaign, he had us all required to run high elves or half elves. Can you see a pattern? Yeah, Ben seems to have an elf fetish. If he was skinny with long flowing blond hair it might seem to explain things, but Ben is around 6 feet tall, burley, and bald with a goatee. Hmmm…
Paul: a young college student with no tabletop D&D experience, he has a lot of experience with the D&D video games, and that seems to pay off at least in game concepts being familiar to him. For a new player, Paul has really taken things to the grill with the MU/Thief, Lily, that he ran. He eventually betrayed to the party to former allies of his, basically screwing himself out of getting to run the character any more. And it was not just to be a dick like a lot of experienced, anti-social type players might. He was actually role-playing what he thought that character might do, in the process having to start playing an NPC provided by me to continue in the game. In the Met. Alpha/Mutant Future mini-campaign we ended this week, Paul ran a mutated tree. He is very cool, with a powerful shriek and acid sap damage abilities. This character was probably the most interesting in the entire campaign. Paul sort of inadvertently named out group last year. I started a private Yahoo page for us, and needed a name for it. I didn’t want some dorky gamer name, so Paul said “you should make it something abstract, like “Waves of a Forgotten Box” or something like that.” Thus, a group name was born. Call us “The Wavies.”
“Little Ben”: not really little, but smaller then Big Ben. He played for a bit the other year before his schedule got involved, and is now back playing again. A good guy, he is a solid player despite running a non-combatant in the Night Below games. His gnome, Ormac, chimes in with the occasional illusion. When another player murdered a captured NPC a few games ago, he refused to accept a magic item (want of magic missile) that had belonged to the victim. To me that is some pretty good role playing of a good character. How many spellcasters, especially one with few combat spells, would pass up a wand of magic missles?
There you have it, the current group, and I’m damn proud to be a part of it, much less the main GM. Without them, I would be awash in the gamer sea of flotsom and jetsom out there. How I got so lucky, I’ll never know. Or maybe I’m just that damn good ;)
So, tell me about what makes you proud, or at least happy, about your group…
Cool post. It's fun to hear about players. It seems like most bloggers try to keep the people in their regular gaming group anonymous, including myself to some degree.
ReplyDeleteBy the way, I think you're a great player and DM. You're frickin hilarious. I also definitely owe you one for picking up the pace of that Gamma World session. Eyebrow definitely not cocked - I'll game with you any day. I also respect your right to have an opinion and express it.
By the way, when are you going to revive the OC whitebox dungeon stomp???
Heh, glad we're still friends, Bob. Didn't want to name you, but I do like mentioning your blog whenever I can (even if I cannot view at work due to "adult content"). You are a busy guy, what with a new kid and popular blog, etc, so you are forgiven for not commenting lately!
ReplyDeleteActually, your GW would have ended fine without me, but I was glad that me and "Childeyes" could help make a happy conclusion! I'm still hoping you'll do another session of that, even if I'm the only returning player. I'll keep an eye on your con activity this year to try and get in on whatever you decide you are gonna do.
Oh, I've been doing White Box as an alternate for my own group here and there (that same dungeon and all), plus I never heard back from Fred Dobbs about the sessions he wanted to get hosted out in OC back in November. So maybe some of those guys got turned off by my little kerfuffle? Aw, who knows...
great post, i love it!
ReplyDeletei'm not sure if i feel particularly proud about my group, but i am quite happy to be a part of it. :)
the secret of our "success"? everybody wants everybody else to have fun i guess. our arguments never take longer than a couple of minutes (despite the fact that several of us enjoy a good argument now and then) and noone harbors any resentment ever.
we all have our quirks, but everybody is tolerant enough so there is never really any tension.
there's goofing around, there's plenty of serious playing "in character", there's focus on tactical play during combat (or people die, as we play wfrp2e).
play is focused on one player one moment, on another the next and at other times the whole group participates (noone ever feels either left out or forced to do anything). the more vocal players sometimes consciously sit back and let the quieter ones "take the stage".
tomorrow we will have our next session after a couple of weeks of and we all can't wait to get going again. cause it will be 8 hours of enjoyment. i can't imagine anything else. :D
an edge we might have over some groups is the fact that we've all known each other from our tabletop-gaming club before the campaign started (so "problem players" were never an issue).
as a matter of fact one player is already designing the next campaign, which all current players will play in again. after that it will be my turn. so during the next years there won't be any rpg-shortage for any of us. :D
Whenever I think of "my gaming group", I think of my long-running campaign that began in college back in 1991. For the next 2.5 years we gamed solidly until we all began to move away. Even then, we tried to have at least 'yearly' sessions- a routine that has continued to this day. The 'core' group of my college buddies are still my buddies and we're still playing the same campaign we started in 1991. Nowadays we have to cram a whole lot of playing into just two days a year, but it remains an awesome experience. What a great bunch of guys- and it makes me feel awesome (ego boost) that they still like my game after all this time.
ReplyDeleteAnd p.s. Bruno, congrats on your own long-running group. It is obviously a sign that you are doing something right. Look forward to hearing more about your gaming!
I think it's cool to read about other people's games, both the game itself and the social friendships behind it. Thanks for sharing.
ReplyDelete(Word verify - stomie - shorted version of the phrase "homie that I stomp orcs with lasers butts with."
Shlo: that's a good feeling, knowing what's coming up on the plate in the future. Solid as a rock. That "knowing the players before gaming" thing was my experience all through the 90's. I think it was good that things got shaken up for me by people I did not know before stepping up to the table.
ReplyDeleteRolo: I hear a lot about annual games folk have who are no longer able to play regularly. I think Dave Arneson did that up until recent years. Man, I miss long 8 hour sessions. We play pretty much 3-4 hours. Shit, I'm not sure I have 8 hours in me anymore.
Chigago: Awesome. "Stomie, don'cha know me?"
Congrats,
ReplyDeletemy current gaming group has been together about 6 months . . .
Now every good game session should upon with a joke . . .
I was making out with a girl in Malibu and
she said-‘Kiss me where it stinks.’
I said – what?
she said, again,
‘Kiss me where it stinks.’
I said – I am not sure I understand.
she then smiled wryly and said,
‘You know, kiss me where it stinks ; - )'
So I drove her to Norco.
Ha ha, you know your So Cal Clovis. Not very often thank God, but I have indeed whiffed that smell. Like an entity. I'll keep her in Malibu and kiss tha mudhole.
ReplyDeleteAwww, what a sweet post. I pretty much share all of your sentiments. From what I've read in your other posts, I'm pretty lucky to have found our group learn from!
ReplyDeleteHey Cool! You used one of my favorite pictures of me! I like it so much I had it put on my debit card....
ReplyDeleteI've been reading the Brunomac blog since September 11, 2010 when someone hoped to break up our little group, sowing a little dissension amongst our ranks by exposing one of Bruno's infamous rants. (Especially since he was ranting about me!)
What the little man didn't realize is that I'm actually vain enough to enjoy reading ANYTHING that someone says about me. I spent the next two days reading every blog on this page. (I even suffered through all the ones that don't mention me! I still do.)
I'm glad I found you Kevin. I don't think I could've done much better.
Solid post, man. I really mean that.
ReplyDeleteAndy: Wow, thanks man. Don't get squirrly on me.I didn't think you had nerve endings till now.
ReplyDeleteChris: I appreciate that man. I sometimes post deep from the heart and release both angels and demons in a way I don't otherwise in life. It's like satans lyrics from Phantom of the Paradise "to work it out, I let them in. All the goodguys and bad guys that I've been..."