When Bob over at Cylcopeatron first posted a list of gaming blog rankings (by follower) some time back, I was surprised by two things. First, that my blog at that time was somewhere around the top 25 percent of such blogs. And second, there seemed to be less blogs than I thought out there. Bob posted such a list again recently, and two things stuck out at me. Firstly, there were now a lot more blogs out there. Secondly, a lot of low-follower blogs had grown substantially in the amount of followers.
Now, my blog hasn’t exactly grown that much since the first list, despite fairly regular posting. Well, here’s the thing; I don’t think amount of posts, nor necessarily the content, matter that much anymore. A couple of years ago it did. Grognardia has such substantial growth in large part because of sheer amounts of posting, not necessarily the content. Other large follower blogs were either around a long time, or had a female or porno connection of some kind. Not to say by any means that these guys did not have great posts, which of course they do. But it is kind of arbitrary in many cases. If Playing D&D With Porn Stars was just “Zak’s D&D Musings” without mention of gangbang girls running elves, he’d probably have somewhere around 200 followers (or less). Don’t get me wrong, he is obviously a smart and talented dude, but lots of smart and talented dudes (and I don’t necessarily consider myself one of those) often have only around 200 followers.
After that first list at Cyclo’s, I saw one blog that was basically just a dude posting text from Edgar Rice Burroughs with no personal commentary, shoot up fairly quickly from around 20 followers to around 50. Perhaps that is in no small part because Bob at Cyclo asked that his readers support these low-follower blogs (many of which had few followers for obvious reasons). I saw another blog who had followers somewhat less than my count, shoot up past me soon after that Cyclo list. Why? Well, the content certainly did not necessarily improve. But I’ll tell you what, every new blog I look at has this one guy as a recently subscribed follower. He figured out that the more you sign up on other blogs, the more of them will do you a solid back and follow you. His comment in Bob’s recent post was “wow, I’m inspired to try harder!” Harder doing what, signing up for every other blog out there? All that takes is having time on your hands.
That’s all great, but I don’t personally care about amount of followers. It is not at all indicative of my content, nor that all of them are actually reading it. I tend to look at and subscribe to the folks who comment on my post. That is how I learn about and join other blogs. I have no interest in starting my own low-end fanzine nor advertising some new game or scenario I have created for sale. I’m just a gamer doing some gaming, man.
I think the blogosphere as a community thing is great, but in the case of classic gaming I think we are starting to have a glut of blogs that don’t have much to say or much to offer. It is becoming more important to some to have a blog and have a lot of followers than it is to game.
I personally don’t have the time to join up all the others blogs out there, and especially to actually read them all. And to join just to get followers would seem kind of hollow to me. I just do my gaming, and do some blogging because I’ve been at it a long time and feel I have a lot to say. This blog has become a place for me to vent about gaming past and present. A lot of negativity has come out of that, but that is part of the vent. The truth is I love gaming, it has been a big part of my life, and it has mostly been a positive experience for me. The blog, not always so much. One guy freaking out epically on his blog because I tore up one of his creepo players some time ago actually cost me a few followers on my blog . Did he have a point? To a degree. Did I? To a degree. In our own ways we overreacted (and both of us could have talked to the other before acting, but we are dudes and dudes can be dumbasses sometimes). Do I care that some people found my rantings too offensive to continue with? Not a wit. I’m not fully the person I sometimes appear to be on my blog any more than I (or anybody) am always the person I am when I get ticked off at something in life in general. That is why I do that blog. Good or bad, I always have something to say. Either something happy about my gaming experiences, or to let off some steam.
In real life I am usually the biggest person in the room, both physically and in personality. I live large no matter what I do. But do I care if I am a big dog in the blogosphere. Hells no. I have something to say for now, and I hope at least a handful read and have something to say back to me about it (good or bad). I’m actually getting something out of blogging about gaming that I think a lot aren’t. I care not for amount of followers. I care about what I have to say and what others have to say back.
A lot of blogs will be gone in a couple of years (I don’t plan on doing this forever). But as long as I do it I will try to live it by one thing – “blog because you game. Don’t game because you blog.”
That makes sense. I think…
EDIT: I also should add that in the last couple of months I have had two unrelated computer problems that slowdown my own joining of other sites, and my commenting on them. First, my home computer got hit by the Thinkpoint virus and is still messed up, so I spend less time on it. Second, many comment functions on other blogs do not work on my office computer. Only those that allow a pop-up can be commented upon. Other problems exist, such as Bob's Cylopeatron site not loading due to adult content (which he told me does not exist on his site), and also my links to his site don't work for some reason. So to those whom I don't respond to as far as joining your blog or commenting upon, I plead severe tech problems! If you visit my blog and comment and I don't check out your stuff, be sure and remind me to give it another try!
Still Out There, a Short Update
8 years ago
Amen! The OSR blog community was a big inspiration on my own personal quest to return to table-top gaming after a looooong hiatus. It's where I learned about the retro-clones, etc. I started a blog in order to join my voice to the growing community, so I could "give back" in some small way. I wanted to share my experiences with anyone who cared to listen. If no one does, I will at least have a place for my own usage, where I can keep a record of the ups and downs of my gaming experiences. I have no illusions that my blog is something special or unique, nor do I have ambitions beyond sharing "war stories" with like-minded folk should the opportunity arise. Anyway, just thought I'd chime in. Thanks, and great blog!
ReplyDeletethere should be more, blogs are the new message board
ReplyDeleteDrance: there seems to be a lot of us who were on that long hiatus. I actually found this online community a couple or so years ago when I started my current group after several years off. I lucked into grognardia and that was my blogging inspiration.
ReplyDeleteAHM: interesting way to look at it. I wish more guys over at Dragonsfoot blogged, because they have a lot to say. Still, it takes up way less time to check out a forum than it does to read these blogs.
Personally, I think the more the merrier. And I'll even admit I follow way more blogs than I easily read/digest, but then I always seem to find a gem post in just about every blog.
ReplyDeleteAs far as a "glut" goes, I don't buy it because there's FAR more blogs than what Cyclo's even posted. It doesn't diminish the community in the slightest--if anything the cream rises to the top...or maybe the middle(?).
Anyway, my own blogs (the lot of them!) are really a way for me to track my interests and occasionally use readers as a sounding board. I'm honored people read them at all!
/yes, I'm a sap, what of it!
The competitive side of me always wants to improve my "score" in comparison to the list he posts. But I've really given up - Even with nearly 2 years of posting and 2,400 hits one day this week (up from my typical traffic of 500-700 hits a day), I have 11 subscribers.
ReplyDelete11.
Woot. Or something.
I've come pretty late to the RPG blog scene and really only started my own blog as a way to brain dump into the cloud (it's a whole lot easier than running a bespoke website). But since becoming an RPGBN member I've been overwhelmed by the enthusiasm and generosity of the community at large. It's so refreshingly different to the message board or forum community and makes you feel like you want to contribute rather than join in (or put up with) the flame or troll fest. My blog has the ultimate moderator... me.
ReplyDeleteI've learnt and been inspired by so much that I've read in the blogs it's reinvigorated me as a DM and thanks to the retro clone blogs has reinvigorated my campaign world to boot. I'm excited at the prospect of DMing for the first time in ages.
Quality will always float to the top and although it takes longer to read, it's worth it
Too many blogs is kind of a mixed blessing. I definitely can't keep up with them all beyond scanning post titles on my blogroll a few times a day.
ReplyDeleteI guess different bloggers are into it for different reasons. Some are into the follower game for its own sake (and I realize that some of my posts have accelerated this), some want lots of hits, some just want to rant, and some use their blogs as infomercials (e.g. LotFP). It's all fine and makes for a lot of fun reading.
My reading of forums has dwindled lately. I guess I like tracking the creative personalities of my favorite bloggers more than I like the highly focused game minutiae represented in the forums.
While its good to see the community grow--and I think in a way, a "rising sea and raised all boats" at least a little, I find it hard to keep up with the good stuff being put out, much less encouraging folks to continue who from time to time put out good stuff.
ReplyDeletePart of this, I suppose, is my work place thinking I someone don't need to visit blogs during the workday. ;)
Jay: Occasionally I see a link to a blog I don't recognize on Grognardia or elsewhere. I swear, half the time it is to a blog that somebody started and made a post months ago, and then nothing more. I would for sure say there was glut of those seeing as I am encountering them fairly often. I also started my blog as a way to track my own thoughts just as you did. That it has a decent readership is just icing on the cake. That sounding board is way helpful. Naw, you ain't a sap.
ReplyDeleteDyson: For sure having the thought process of "this is really for me and not for other people" about your posts helps take the sting out. It wasn't until I had over 50 followers when I started writing to other people to some degree. It did change my posts, because at first I think they were way more personal (talking about my heartbreaks and negative things in gaming past).
TonyB: yeah, those dicks on forums can really eat a person up. As someone once said on my blog comments, blogs are a way to be more responsible for your own words (hmmm...maybe I said that).
Cyclo: heh, you sure "opened a can of worms" with those lists. But man, it really was in a good way. It caused a lot of buzz. Your blog comes from a place of real genuine geek/pop culture love, and it is why it has legitimatly gotten it's deserved popularity. That you can keep your finger on the blog/gaming pulse with the new addition to the family this year is nothing short of amazing - happy holidays to you and the family!
ReplyDeleteTrey: yeah, I really should get back to work ;)
Yeah, too many blogs but in a good way.
ReplyDeleteI started blogging after stumbling onto a blog run by Scottsz which was documenting a project very similar to what I was doing (recreating an old minis dungeon crawl game). His blog roll pointed to Grognardia and the rest is obvious.
I'm a little glad I have a Wordpress blog which doesn't rank with the Blogger blogs -- otherwise I'm sure I'd be tempted to try to gain followers. I do get a little thrill when the hits top a certain number but mainly I just like knowing that if I post a question in a "safe space" (my blog rather than, say, a pirhana tank forum) there will be a sizable pool of people to answer it.
And I do get a little fuzzy feeling when I find my blog on someone's roll, or someone says "nice job!" on a pic of mini I painted. It's validation.
But you're larger point stands -- there are obviously people for whom the whole point is the feedback of followers, hits, etc. Not everyone has a face to face gaming group, I guess. A few months into blogging when I was getting a handful of visits on a good day I got more active about commenting on people's blogs and suddenly the hits started jumping, and I got onto a couple of prominent blogs' blog rolls and a good 25% of my traffic can be traced to them on any given day. So I don't look down on people who game the system, as it were. As you said, though, the important thing is that blog doesn't take the wheel or divert energy better spent on the real world. I see my blog largely as a notebook where I can jot ideas and occasionally get feedback.
And kudos to Cyclopeatron for helping the up & comers get noticed. For a while I made a point of adding a link to pretty much anyone who left a comment or linked to me, as a sort of courtesy. I think its a good idea to encourage new blogs, really. You never know who will be the next Cyclopeatron or Zak S. or whatever.
I find it hilarious that other blogs ("Your dungeon is suck" for example) act all outraged by the vanity and self-referencing and whatever on other blogs. If we weren't all just a little vain, our blogs would be actual paper notebooks.
Huge Ruined Pile is about the only blog I don't regret reading after glancing through a post. I prefer your rather rare personal anecdotes than your top-dog groveling.
ReplyDeleteMost bloggers in the OSR are retarded nice guys.
@Brunomac: The blog is for yourself. The moment that it's not is when it's time to give it up. I'm amazed that people read my little blog. Like Jay, I started with the intent to organize my own thoughts and to document some games. It's grown beyond that and I do confess to getting caught up in the rankings (a little). But it is nice to be read and I like that I've put stuff out there that people use or find enjoyable. That makes me smile.
ReplyDelete@Dyson: Dude, you should have so many more followers. Perhaps it is the WordPress thing? Blogger makes it easier for people to follow your site. Anyway, I subscribe to your posts via email, but not everyone is into that.
One reason I started blogging was too cut down on my pile of paper notebooks! ;)
ReplyDeleteI blog mostly to keep it as a reference for myself & others who may be interested in such things.
I would rather see more then less. It's difficult to follow them all, but then again the more there are, the more likely something will be found of interest. Something's gotta stick to the blog wall!
Ciao!
GW
I have been railing at my readers for the better part of three years now. People come to see the monkey dance.
ReplyDelete@Dyson: After reading your comment I went to check and, lo and behold, I wasn't following your blog. This is despite the fact that I've been mooching your maps for some time now and truly enjoying your blog. I think I just didn't hit "follow" because I didn't have anything good to add in the form of a comment. I should have said "thanks" about 50 times though. Thanks!
ReplyDelete@Bruno: I enjoy listening to you talk about gaming. Plain and simple. I don't really follow blogs to read gaming theory (and always regret it when I accidentally post it on my own blog), but rather to hear others talk about how they're playing, how they feel about it, and mooch their awesome maps and/or tables.
@Dyson:
ReplyDeleteIt might just be me but I don't follow anyone, despite the fact that I check 8 blogs on a daily basis (at least if they post that often. One or two of them have a posting schedule they stick to). It would be more if I could remember the names of them...